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The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that although scholars have studied revolutions (depiction) for over a century, there are still many competing theories explaining those key events in human history?

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Consensus against merging czar 02:23, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I propose merging Social Revolution into Revolution. As the two articles are structured, there is no difference in how revolution is understood and defined. If there are nuanced differences, then those differences can be fleshed out in Revolution. As it stands, the existing of two separate articles leads to duplicated content and worse article quality. Thenightaway (talk) 17:29, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose — "Social revolution" is a specific classification within revolution studies in fields such as history and philosophy. Revolutions do not always bring changes in societal structures or systems. If anything, the definition in the lead of this article (Revolution) should be more general initially and then describe specific classifications like social revolution. Social revolution is not "different" from revolution; social revolution is a type of revolution. Yue🌙 21:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The article isn't great, but social revolutions are a distinct and notable enough concept to require an independent article. The term "social revolution" gets no less than 234,000 hits on Google Scholar.[1] --Grnrchst (talk) 17:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose — If we look to the International Encyclopedia of Political Science, for the entry on "Revolutions" we find "social revolutions" referred to multiple times as specific and unique form of revolutions that is an important area of research. We also find "social revolutions" come up specifically in the entries for "Terrorist groups", "Communist parties", "Comparative methods", "Democracy", "Feminist movements", and "Marxism". So it is evidently viewed as an important and distinct form of revolution by multiple leading academics, this along with Grnrchst's point show how it is something worthy of it's own article on Wikipedia, even if the current article is lacking. --Cdjp1 (talk) 21:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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